In January I wrote an article about a dispute between Condoleezza Rice and Sen. Joe Biden over the number of trained Iraqi troops. The number trained is obviously the single most critical number relative to Iraq since it is the number, more than any other, which determines when our troops can come home, i.e., when a sufficient number of Iraqi troops are trained to take the place of our troops. Rice, at her confirmation hearings in January, said there were 120,000 troops trained while Biden claimed there were only 3000.
It seemed incredible that there was no agreement at the highest levels of our gov't on such a basic and absolutely critical piece of data. In the end I assumed Rice was lying when she corroborated her number only by saying "I have to rely on what I was told" while Biden said he had gone over to Iraq and talked to those who were actually doing the training. Both relied on hearsay but Biden was far closer to the source.
The number came up again the other night (8 months later) when I saw two retired Republican Generals, still with extensive contacts in Iraq, who were on TV to provide the inside dope on how many Iraqi troops were actually trained to the point where they could operate independently of American troops. They both looked very sheepishly and sadly into the camera while admitting that only 2 battalions were really trained. At the time it did not mean much to me since I didn't know what a battalion was. It turns out that an Iraqi battalion is only 700 lousy men! This means that in all the years we have only trained 1400 men of the 200,000 or so that would be needed to hold the country together in our absence. I assume, if there were 50,000 or even 20,000, the administration would be making it clear, loudly and often, but they are not. In fact they have just moved to make the number classified.
Looking around the Internet, the Administration has no optimistic numbers floating around at all it seems. There is talk of the Transition Readiness Assessment. This is the latest methodology by which Iraqi troops are now assessed for readiness. Here is the way it seems to turn out: "of 81 Iraqi army battalions assessed, only three were rated green, able to conduct operations independently." By that estimate there are 2100 troops trained, but that too is almost nothing. As of this writing (8/15/05) Sen. Biden has indicated his most recent trip to Iraq puts the number of trained troops at 3000.
This means almost certainly that we are losing, and that probably we cannot win ever. The Iraqi people won't fight for us and against each other. When Dick Cheney said very recently, " we are witnessing the last throes of the insurgency" when in fact the insurgency looks far stronger than ever, you had to think this is Vietnam, only worse, all over again. As much as I love Republican Jeffersonian Libertarian philosophy it is hard to imagine how such pure delusion can serve that purpose over the long run. When, General Casey, once the Pentagon's top man in Iraq, said in January, "we may never be able to train enough Iraqis" he was apparently right.
So what do we do now? For starters, where does the tough talking and proud Bush Administration find the courage to change course? After all, we don't want a badly conceived and executed tactic in the war on terror to give the Democrats, who have no tactics and no strategy at all, except, possibly, anti Americanism, an opportunity, if only an opportunity by default.
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Everyone can make mistakes. Don't forget though that when we thought we had won the war(around the time Bush said "mission accomplished") many of the big mouth liberals apologised for saying it couldn't be done. Now they are claiming to have been right all along when really they were guessing, and got lucky.
Also, we are the mighest power on earth by far. If we lose this war over 2000 dead Americans it merely means that not much was a stake, according to the Demcorats. Of course we'll lose a lot more and kill a lot more when it comes to defending the oil fields of Saudi Arabia, and then even the liberals will want to fight.
Yes, Ted, where does the tough talking and proud Bush Administration find the courage to change course?
My question to you: if they don't change course (actually, if we could define their "course" that would be a plus) will they then be cowards as well as intellectually absent and morally bankrupt?
Rick said... Yes, Ted, where does the tough talking and proud Bush Administration find the courage to change course?
*******why repeat the question I asked in the article?
My question to you: if they don't change course (actually, if we could define their "course" that would be a plus)
******they are trying to defeat a Nazi-like gov't in Iraq. Its very easy to understand??
will they then be cowards
******I would say yes
as well as intellectually absent and morally bankrupt?
******name calling with no basis provided for absent/bankrupt charge.
I'm prett sure I posted this somewhere but you seem to have deleted it rather than adress it.
Since ou arein favor of free trade (cafta post) and supply and demand laws, why shouldn't the iraqui people be free to sell their oil to whomever they want? Why are they forced at gunpoint to sign lease to american companies?
and by the way, if your government is so prone to attack dictatures and to make democracy shine, why Iraq? I mean, there are a lot of dictators out there, like in korea for example, that the US did not put on the throne and that are just as bad or worse than Saddam was.
Korea even HAS WMDs. No need to fake intelligence, they BOAST it. There even is a technical state of war between korea and the us.
And please have a modicum of integrity nd ADRESS the comments rather than deleting them.
french student said... I'm pretty sure I posted this somewhere but you seem to have deleted it rather than address it.
*******as long as you are not too obscene I will always answer.
Since ou arein favor of free trade (cafta post) and supply and demand laws, why shouldn't the iraqui people be free to sell their oil to whomever they want?
******they will be I'm sure
Why are they forced at gunpoint to sign lease to american companies?
*********too stupid oil in an international commodity that trades at the same price for all countries. Moreover dummy they aren't producing enough to matter to anyone anyway.
and by the way, if your government is so prone to attack dictatures and to make democracy shine, why Iraq?
********it was a part of the axis of evil. As policeman to the world it was our responsibility
I mean, there are a lot of dictators out there, like in korea for example, that the US did not put on the throne and that are just as bad or worse than Saddam was.
*******yes we all agree the evil ones must go, but one at a time. If the French had one once or moral clarity and could help that would be nice.
Korea even HAS WMDs. No need to fake intelligence, they BOAST it. There even is a technical state of war between korea and the us.
********yes but they hadn't attacked us, we were in a daily war over the no fly zones, they were in violation of the 27 UN accords, and the Middle East is a hot spot while the Koreans are more Asia's problem, Sadam had used WMDS before. Isn't thinking fun??.
french student said... I'm pretty sure I posted this somewhere but you seem to have deleted it rather than address it.
*******as long as you are not too obscene I will always answer.
Since ou arein favor of free trade (cafta post) and supply and demand laws, why shouldn't the iraqui people be free to sell their oil to whomever they want?
******they will be I'm sure
Why are they forced at gunpoint to sign lease to american companies?
*********too stupid oil in an international commodity that trades at the same price for all countries. Moreover dummy they aren't producing enough to matter to anyone anyway.
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you said something about economic transactions being freely entrerd by everyone. You did not say that only the price had to be a factor. Or else, you cannot sell anything to anyone without offering the same product to everyone at the same price. Before you answer, please remember the US are one ofthe biggers weapons dealers in the world. Would ou sell nukes or planes to north korea for the right price?
This is one of the points where the MODEL does not match reality.
and by the way, if your government is so prone to attack dictatures and to make democracy shine, why Iraq?
********it was a part of the axis of evil. As policeman to the world it was our responsibility
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the axis of evil as decided arbitrarily by GWB, who has not been annointed king of the world to the best of my knowledge. I don't think this is a valid point
I mean, there are a lot of dictators out there, like in korea for example, that the US did not put on the throne and that are just as bad or worse than Saddam was.
*******yes we all agree the evil ones must go, but one at a time. If the French had one once or moral clarity and could help that would be nice.
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well, if the had not tried to enroll everyone and his neighbor in war based on lies (GWB himself recognised there was no WMD nor any close to completion program in iraq, therefore he lied when he said there were) and did not, in the facts, start an unprovoqued invasion war on a sovereign country, maybe our sense of morals would not have led us to pass.
Korea even HAS WMDs. No need to fake intelligence, they BOAST it. There even is a technical state of war between korea and the us.
********yes but they hadn't attacked us, we were in a daily war over the no fly zones, they were in violation of the 27 UN accords, and the Middle East is a hot spot while the Koreans are more Asia's problem, Sadam had used WMDS before. Isn't thinking fun??.
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no more a hot spot than others, look at africa, for instance, and you will find other megadeaths. Do you go there? No, there is no oil.
Thinking is fun. debating is fun. Parrotting lies ain't, when you see they're lies.
BTW
"oil in an international commodity"
But by international law, every government is allowed to do what it wants with its countrie's natural resources.
Oil is not an INTERNATIONAL commodity. It is a resource and belongs to the government that governs the land on which it is found.
The US has on its territory oil reserves that it does not exploit.And I'm not talkin about alaska here.
By your reasonning, the US should exploit tese reserves and put them on the market.
Yet it doesn't
One more incoherent pert of your raisonning, on more double standard. I really wish you wouldn't do that anymore
Since ou arein favor of free trade (cafta post) and supply and demand laws, why shouldn't the iraqui people be free to sell their oil to whomever they want?
******they will be I'm sure
Why are they forced at gunpoint to sign lease to american companies?
*********too stupid, oil in an international commodity that trades at the same price for all countries. Moreover dummy they aren't producing enough to matter to anyone anyway.
_________
you said something about economic transactions being freely entrerd by everyone. You did not say that only the price had to be a factor. Or else, you cannot sell anything to anyone without offering the same product to everyone at the same price. Before you answer,
********you have not asked a question???
please remember the US are one ofthe biggers weapons dealers in the world.
********all agree but so what??????/
Would ou sell nukes or planes to north korea for the right price?
********no , but so what???
This is one of the points where the MODEL does not match reality.
********too stupid . One does not sell their new born baby, food. This is a transaction that takes place outside the normal economic system. Do yo get it now???
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the axis of evil as decided arbitrarily by GWB,
*******Oh really so he might just as easily have picked the president of Switzerland????
who has not been annointed king of the world to the best of my knowledge.
*******too stupid, unless the US is the policeman the world would instantly descend into chaos, and France would be Nazi. They fell in 3 days to Hitler, remember. So they should shut up and listen.
I don't think this is a valid point
******you forgot to say what "this" is?? a pronoun without a noun around is meaningless
well, if the had not tried to enroll everyone and his neighbor in war based on lies (GWB himself recognised there was no WMD
********all the world's intelligence services thought there were WMD's so there was no lie and you certainly have not pointed one out. So shut up and think
nor any close to completion program in Iraq, therefore he lied when he said there were)
********he was mistaken based in intelligence from all the allies- get it now dummy??? but WMDs were only one reason to go to war anyway. And, if the war had been won easily you'd look like a bigger ass than you already do.
and did not, in the facts, start an unprovoqued invasion war on a sovereign country,
******we were already at war over the no fly zones- Do you get it now???
maybe our sense of morals would not have led us to pass.
*******France passed on fighting the Nazi too and sent Jews to Germany and waited for the Americans to liberate them when we could have let you enjoy your Nazi rulers which half the French liked anyway.
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Korea was no more a hot spot than others, look at Africa, for instance, and you will find other megadeaths. Do you go there? No, there is no oil.
*********so is there something wrong with wanted to keep the worlds oil supply flowing?
If we don't protect the oil will the French do it? The idea of it is a joke. A nation of girlie men at best
"oil in an international commodity"
********so???????
But by international law, every government is allowed to do what it wants with its country's natural resources.
*******so??
Oil is not an INTERNATIONAL commodity. It is a resource and belongs to the government that governs the land on which it is found.
**********so??????
The US has on its territory oil reserves that it does not exploit. And I'm not talkin about alaska here.
**********so???????
By your reasonning, the US should exploit tese reserves and put them on the market.
*********you forgot to say what my reasoning is????
Yet it doesn't
One more incoherent pert of your raisonning,
******how can it be incoherent if you state it??
on more double standard. I really wish you wouldn't do that anymore
ok for clarity's sake I will stop the parsing game. I really wish you did, too, stop. When I said "answer" it was a polite form for "interrupt rudely" which is, by the way, just what you did just at that point in my previous comment.
First, about oil. Americans society are as we "speak" getting deals signed on the iraqi oil. These deals are beeing agreed by the american transition government, which is supported by american troops against the will of a big enough portion of the population that you continue soaking up casualties. I do not therefore feel that those deals are agreed to freely.
Note that you did not refute my point that economic transactions should be entered freely. My point stand een if you did not like my example.
As for the axis of evil, GWB picked muslim countries, so that the american public, majoritarily christian, could find a defining point between "us" and "them". He has chosen countries where people have a different culture, and arbitrarily assigned the value of "good" to the US and of "bad" to everything different. This kind of white and black thinking is not worthy of any statesman, whose job is to deal as peacefully as possible with different cultures as soon as they reach an international-level position. Since the POTUS is in charge of foreign policy, the position qualifies. BTW, please check how many of the "evil" nations produce or have large reseves of oil, and you will see why some pople, myslf included, believe this is a war for oil.
On the "policeman of the world" business, it is again a self-annointed title. nobody asked you to take it. In fact, there is a peaceful organisation whose role is to settle the disputes between nations as peacefully as possible, based on whet is right for the populations, not on who has the biggest gun, and the US have been undermining their authority as much as they could. This organisation is the UNO.
About the WWII issue, which I think is off-topic but will adress nonetheless, let me tell you this. The germans used new tactics and troops more efficient than anything there was in the world. They held the whole world to a standstill for years, including american troops. The only reason we have been invaded and not you is that you don't have a common border with germany. During the occupation, the frrench government was sent into axile. Petain was an old WWI officer, whose intellectual faculties were acceptable 4 hours a day because of his age, and who was put in "power" by the germans who manipulated him. Most people, it is true, followed the orders of that government, hoping to survive and not see their loved ones die. But there were as many resistants as there were "collabos".
And if you want to play "who screwed up first", remember that it was french-loaned troops that allowed the americans to win their independance war. The statue of liberty was sent by a french artist to commemorate this.
You have never be attacked for any significant amount of time on your soil. Your people never have had to adjust to an invader. Until you do, do not criticize those who have. You do not have the right.
And all the world's intelligence did not think there were WMDs in iraq. Powell produced forged evidence to the UN (apparently, he was forced to do so, after having said the report was "bulllshit", and resigned/was fired shortly thereafter). After this "evidence" was shown, the UN decided to send inspectors to check these allegations. The inspectors found nothing, although they had acces wherever they asked. That is when GWB decided to start hostilities and invaded iraq.
BTW, it is only a repeat of the second gulf war strategy, where the US government showed sattellite pictures of alleged WMD sites. Unfortunately, french sattelleit pictures did not match yours (yes, we happen to have our own space programm and satellites) and we did not follow you.
as for your series of "so?", If you read between them, you will see a constructed argument that exposes the falseness of your claim that "oil in an international commodity"
and that anyone should have access to it, for a price. After that,as an example, I apply your version of the world ("oil is an international commodity, anyone should have access to it for a price") to the oil on your territory, and point out that your country is not in a hurry to apply it to its own reserves. This is the incoherent part of your reasonning, and your double standard. Is my point clear enough now?
french student said... ok for clarity's sake I will stop the parsing game.
*******also you should learn to say 10 times more with 10 times fewer words.
I really wish you did, too, stop. When I said "answer" it was a polite form for "interrupt rudely" which is, by the way, just what you did just at that point in my previous comment.
*******waste of time
First, about oil. Americans society are as we "speak" getting deals signed on the iraqi oil. These deals are beeing agreed by the american transition government, which is supported by american troops against the will of a big enough portion of the population that you continue soaking up casualties. I do not therefore feel that those deals are agreed to freely.
*****who cares its a trivial amount of oil and not important. You need to think about what the central point of my blog post was and then agree with it or disagree briefly and intelligently.
Note that you did not refute my point that economic transactions should be entered freely.
******most people on earth believe that , so what???
My point stand een if you did not like my example.
As for the axis of evil, GWB picked muslim countries, so that the american public, majoritarily christian, could find a defining point between "us" and "them".
******he picked them becuase of 9/11 dummy
He has chosen countries where people have a different culture,
*******Iran and Korea have different cultures
and arbitrarily assigned the value of "good" to the US and of "bad" to everything different.
********ok so the US is bad and Sadam is good??? Too stupid
This kind of white and black thinking is not worthy of any statesman, whose job is to deal as peacefully as possible with different cultures as soon as they reach an international-level position. Since the POTUS is in charge of foreign policy, the position qualifies. BTW, please check how many of the "evil" nations produce or have large reseves of oil, and you will see why some pople, myslf included, believe this is a war for oil.
******too stupid there is not enough oil in Iraq to pay for the war
On the "policeman of the world" business, it is again a self-annointed title. nobody asked you to take it.
********yes the French asked us to liberate them from the Nazis, even though half the french were Nazis
In fact, there is a peaceful organisation whose role is to settle the disputes between nations as peacefully as possible, based on whet is right for the populations, not on who has the biggest gun, and the US have been undermining their authority as much as they could. This organisation is the UNO.
*******the UN has no postion on terror and usually not on genocide either because most nations there cause genocide or terror or support the policies that lead to it? This is a simple concept.
About the WWII issue, which I think is off-topic but will adress nonetheless, let me tell you this. The germans used new tactics and troops more efficient than anything there was in the world. They held the whole world to a standstill for years, including american troops. The only reason we have been invaded and not you is that you don't have a common border with germany.
*******you were invaded because you are nation of girly men who forgot to defend themselves, and to this day just pretent there is no evil.
During the occupation, the frrench government was sent into axile. Petain was an old WWI officer, whose intellectual faculties were acceptable 4 hours a day because of his age, and who was put in "power" by the germans who manipulated him. Most people, it is true, followed the orders of that government, hoping to survive and not see their loved ones die.
*******a heroic nation of girly men??
But there were as many resistants as there were "collabos".
*******ok half girly men
And if you want to play "who screwed up first", remember that it was french-loaned troops that allowed the americans to win their independance war. The statue of liberty was sent by a french artist to commemorate this.
********yes and we learned to fight and become the savior of the world while the French became a nation of girly men.
You have never be attacked for any significant amount of time on your soil. Your people never have had to adjust to an invader. Until you do, do not criticize those who have. You do not have the right.
******* too stupid France elected not to have an army and not to fight and they are still that stupid and wish the whole world to follow them
And all the world's intelligence did not think there were WMDs in Iraq. Powell produced forged evidence to the UN (apparently, he was forced to do so,
******you may say that but he does not
after having said the report was "bulllshit", and resigned/was fired shortly thereafter).
*****he resigned and all did agree the intelligence was mistaken from all over the world, Anyway who cares Sadism was evil and hid from the weapons inspectors and that was enough to take him out in a post 9/11 world.
After this "evidence" was shown, the UN decided to send inspectors to check these allegations. The inspectors found nothing, although they had access wherever they asked. That is when GWB decided to start hostilities and invaded Iraq.
*******it was well documented by Hans Blix how Saddam spied on the inspectors and led the world to believe he had weapons in doing so. That was good enough evidence all by it self.
BTW, it is only a repeat of the second gulf war strategy, where the US government showed satellite pictures of alleged WMD sites. Unfortunately, French satellite pictures did not match yours (yes, we happen to have our own space program and satellites) and we did not follow you.
********stupid FRench as usual. Today the oil would all be Sadam's hands if the US had not once again rescued your girlie men.
as for your series of "so?", If you read between them, you will see a constructed argument that exposes the falseness of your claim that "oil in an international commodity"
********the world market price is $ 67 a barrel
and that anyone should have access to it, for a price. After that, as an example, I apply your version of the world ("oil is an international commodity, anyone should have access to it for a price") to the oil on your territory, and point out that your country is not in a hurry to apply it to its own reserves.
******reserves are privately owned and sold at the world price
This is the incoherent part of your reasoning,
*******what does this refer to????
and your double standard. Is my point clear enough now?
*********what is your point???
12:07 AM
"******most people on earth believe that , so what???"
so I don't believe thes transactions are entered freely in iraq
"******he picked them becuase of 9/11 dummy"
no iraq-9/11 connection has been proved to this day.
"*******Iran and Korea have different cultures"
and none of them have the same as the US
"********ok so the US is bad and Sadam is good??? Too stupid"
Well, since saddam got into power thanks to the us, I'd say you are both bad.
"******too stupid there is not enough oil in Iraq to pay for the war"
Depends on how long the prices go on rising. Most reserves have been discovered, ans oil is not renewable, so the offer is diminishing while the demand is increasing (US oil use is rising). Do the maths
"********yes the French asked us to liberate them from the Nazis, even though half the french were Nazis"
and the iraqi never asked.
"*******the UN has no postion on terror and usually not on genocide either because most nations there cause genocide or terror or support the policies that lead to it? This is a simple concept."
nevertheless, it is the appropriate diplomatic channel. Try changing the UN position rather than ignoring it.
"*******you were invaded because you are nation of girly men who forgot to defend themselves, and to this day just pretent there is no evil."
baseless name-calling. I gave you an explanation based on facts, you answer with one based on prejudice. and by the way, "girly men" is a ridiculous expression.
"********yes and we learned to fight and become the savior of the world while the French became a nation of girly men."
savior of the world? Wake up! The world doesn't want to be saved. Look at the casualties figures in iraq and tell me the iraqi are happy to see you.
"******* too stupid France elected not to have an army and not to fight and they are still that stupid and wish the whole world to follow them"
We happen to believe that you can derive your authority from something else than armed power, that diplomacy and bullying are not synonyms. As for the size of our army, well, we're 60 millions, you're 270 millions. Do the maths.
"*****he resigned and all did agree the intelligence was mistaken from all over the world, Anyway who cares Sadism was evil and hid from the weapons inspectors and that was enough to take him out in a post 9/11 world."
well, apparently when all your arguments are debunked you resort to the "who cares? I was right!" technique. The inspectors had free access anywhere they wanted. How could saddam hide anything? Moreover, does the US have a right to know every secret and invade those who refuse to yield them?
"*******it was well documented by Hans Blix how Saddam spied on the inspectors and led the world to believe he had weapons in doing so. That was good enough evidence all by it self."
So well documiented that I had never heard of this guy. And if people came into my home to pry and poke everywhere, I'd keep an eye on them, too. Not googd enough evidence to convince me.
"********stupid FRench as usual. Today the oil would all be Sadam's hands if the US had not once again rescued your girlie men."
well, he'd be the leader of iraq, he'd have the right to sell, or not, the oil. As HE'd see fit. Free trade, remember? Might have been inconvenient for us, but it would have been crippling for you. However, it would have been WITHIN HIS RIGHTS.
"********the world market price is $ 67 a barrel"
so?
"******reserves are privately owned and sold at the world price"
and VOLUNTARILY sold at the world price. "every economic transaction is entered freely", remember? If he does not sell, he does not selll. None of your business. If you break into someone's house, take his tv and stereo, leave money on the floor, and leave, it's still breaking and entering. This is what you are doing in iraq.
"*******what does this refer to????"
the sentence just above in the post.
"*********what is your point???"
the war in iraq is a conquest war and its goal is the pillaging of the irai natural resources for the use of the americans. It is not a "war on terror", except since your alcoholic president made it one by enraging so many people who turned into terrorists. The expectation that other countries support your ass in this unjust war is incredibly arrogant. Your president is taking the international community for fools and aggavating everyone in the process. Even most americans (look at the polls)
Yes, you are losing in iraq. Here's the reason. You are fighting for money. They are fighting for their lives.
no iraq-9/11 connection has been proved to this day.
*******too stupid, by any estimate Saddam was more likely to attack us than Afganistan and yet Afganistan did? Is this too complex for you?
Well, since saddam got into power thanks to the us, I'd say you are both bad.
********So the US and SAdam's Iraq were equal??? Too stupid even for a school kid
Depends on how long the prices go on rising.
*******so does everything dummy.
"********yes the French asked us to liberate them from the Nazis, even though half the french were Nazis"
and the iraqi never asked.
********so???
nevertheless, it is the appropriate diplomatic channel. Try changing the UN position rather than ignoring it.
*******we are changing it by cleaning up countries like Iraq
"*******you were invaded because you are nation of girly men who forgot to defend themselves, and to this day just pretent there is no evil."
baseless name-calling.
*******ok the French were mature men who were well prepared to defend themselves against the Nazis and did so brilliantly and bravely
"********yes and we learned to fight and become the savior of the world while the French became a nation of girly men."
savior of the world? Wake up!
******ok dummy you're right, the world would be a better place if we let the Nazis and communists have europe and the world
The world doesn't want to be saved.
*****you mean the europeans really wanted to live under the Nazis or communists??? and now they wouldn't mind living under a Muslim Caliphate???
Look at the casualties figures in iraq and tell me the iraqi are happy to see you.
*****they want us to stay
"******* too stupid France elected not to have an army and not to fight and they are still that stupid and wish the whole world to follow them"
We happen to believe that you can derive your authority from something else than armed power,
*******yes and it worked well against the Nazi and communists and is an excellent way to fend off the Mulim Calaphate. You are not really this dense are you??
that diplomacy and bullying are not synonyms.
*******so??
As for the size of our army, well, we're 60 millions, you're 270 millions. Do the maths.
********so??
"*****he resigned and all did agree the intelligence was mistaken from all over the world, Anyway who cares Saddam was evil and hid from the weapons inspectors and that was enough to take him out in a post 9/11 world."
well, apparently when all your arguments are debunked you resort to the "who cares?
*****what argument was debunked?? you forgot to say??
I was right!" technique.
??????
The inspectors had free access anywhere they wanted. How could Saddam hide anything?
******they had numerous spies and listening devices everywhere and Hans Blix beleived it only could be becuase they had someting to hide? Get it now??
Moreover, does the US have a right to know every secret and invade those who refuse to yield them?
********we were at war with them and they appeared to be 1000 times more agressive than Afganistan. Get it now???
"*******it was well documented by Hans Blix how Saddam spied on the inspectors and led the world to believe he had weapons in doing so. That was good enough evidence all by it self."
So well documiented that I had never heard of this guy.
*******he ran the inspection program dummy!!!!
And if people came into my home to pry and poke everywhere, I'd keep an eye on them, too. Not googd enough evidence to convince me.
*******but seem that you are not very bright but don't feel bad you're probably a typical old world thinker
"********stupid French as usual. Today the world's oil would all be Saddam's hands if the US had not once again rescued your girlie men."
well, he'd be the leader of iraq,
********he tried to take Kuwait too, and had the US not saved Kuwait he would have taken more and more- get it now??
he'd have the right to sell, or not, the oil. As HE'd see fit. Free trade, remember? Might have been inconvenient for us, but it would have been crippling for you. However, it would have been WITHIN HIS RIGHTS.
*********to take over the middle east and sell oil at $500 a barrel - you are very stupid indeed
"******reserves are privately owned and sold at the world price"
and VOLUNTARILY sold at the world price. "every economic transaction is entered freely", remember?
********you forgot to say what your point is??
If he does not sell, he does not selll. None of your business. If you break into someone's house, take his tv and stereo, leave money on the floor, and leave, it's still breaking and entering. This is what you are doing in iraq.
*******we are taking out a Nazi like dictator like we did for you in 1945. We gave you life and you are too cowardly to face it. thank fully the french don't matter
the war in iraq is a conquest war
******so was ww2
and its goal is the pillaging of the irai natural resources
*******I already told you dummy the resources have trivial value compared to the cost of the war?? No one on earth is this stupid unless of course you are a brainwashed European liberal
for the use of the americans. It is not a "war on terror",
*****all agree that there are now many terrorists from all over the world in Iraq
except since your alcoholic president
*******do you have evidence that he is an alcoholic or are you just being stupid???
made it one by enraging so many people who turned into terrorists. The expectation that other countries support your ass in this unjust war is incredibly arrogant.
********so maybe if we encouraged the Muslim caliphate they would support us??
Your president is taking the international community for fools
*******we are the last best hope for freedom. Without our vision it would be a world of Nazis Muslims and Communists fighting it out. We gave civilization to the world and only we have the vision to maintain it for you.
and aggavating everyone in the process.
*******you mean making losers jealous as the bite the hand that feeds them
Even most americans (look at the polls)
*******they just elected Bush dummy
Yes, you are losing in iraq. Here's the reason. You are fighting for money.
*******you forgot to say how you came to that stupid conclusion
They are fighting for their lives.
******some dummy are fighting for a Muslim Caliphate and some are fighting to restore a Nazi like dictator- get it now???
Losing the War?
The War has already been won.
The troops are not fighting thousands of troop formations. They're dodging car bombs and IED's while trying to restore a safe haven for the Iraqi people. This is known as the rebuilding process. There are those who would like you to believe that this war has been a complete disaster but that is simply not true.
30,000 Iraqi police have been hired.
An Iraqi civil defense corps is being formed.
Coalition forces have captured or killed 38 of Iraq's 55 most wanted.
Thousands of lower-level Baath Party loyalists have been rounded up or otherwise dealt with.
The Iraqi Central Bank has been made independent.
Iraq has returned to the world oil market. All of Iraq's universities have reopened.
Power and water are, in most places, at prewar levels, and we're making progress in Baghdad.
The food redistribution system has been restarted.
Nearly all of Iraq's 240 hospitals and 1,200 clinics are open.
Over 100 newspapers have begun publishing.
In all major cities and in 85 percent of the towns, municipal councils have been formed of Iraqis. The north and the south are calm; opposition to the United States in Baghdad and the Sunni triangle to the north is limited. There are no clashes between Shiite and Sunni Muslims or between Kurds and other Iraqis. Meetings of the organizing council have been harmonious and productive. Much of the negative press is due to translators who have their own anti-American agendas and give American and other reporters their version of what is going on rather than what the Iraqis being interviewed are saying.
You mentioned many things but not the 2000 dead Americans and their families or whether the next 2000 and their families will be willing to step up to the plate. And, you didn't mention whether the civil war that our presence unleshed can ever be stopped or whether we will ever train enough Iraqi troops to produce a stable democratic country.
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