7.12.2005

WHO NEEDS A FREE PRESS ANYWAY ?

Let's be honest shall we? Our founding fathers may have had some very good ideas, in fact many very good ideas, but a free press just may not have been one of them. They gave us a government by and for the people which was truly a wonderful revolution at the time; so if they gave us such a gov't why do we need a free press to independently report on what our gov't, by and for the people, is doing? After all, a gov't that is so much for us can tell us all by themselves what they are doing, on our behalf.

And now, 200 years later, we see that our founders have succeeded so well that we don't have the slightest fear that gov't really needs to be monitored by the press to safeguard our freedoms. In fact, we believe the opposite, i.e., that our beloved gov't should not be monitored and contained, but rather expanded to generally make all things better, on our behalf. Indeed, we have been so grateful to gov't that in each decade for the last 200 years we have seen to it that gov't has been given all the power, scope and authority it needs. In fact, we even have the Democrats who consistently stand for nothing other than insuring that the gov't gets bigger and bigger so that our freedoms will correspondingly get bigger and bigger too, and they have succeeded by almost any standard of measurement, at least in making the gov't bigger, on our behalf. Our gov't doesn't need to be guarded by a free press, it needs to be set free to achieve its full glory. And so even after 200 years, the Democrats have never said that there is a limit to how big, big is.

So why make a mess of this happy situation by throwing a free press into it? Look what happened to poor Judith Miller. She now sits in jail hiding information that she delusionally thinks will might make our beloved gov't look bad. If she had just patriotically trusted our beloved gov't in the first place she wouldn't have needed the information, and would not now be sitting in jail. This is the kind of confusing stuff that happens when you have a free press. We all love gov't yet there are people among us like Judith Miller who are willing to rat it out? exactly , how do you explain that?

Interestingly, Judith Miller and her famous Democratic newspaper (NYTIMES) may figure that a free press is necessary when you have Republicans holding the executive and legislative branches of gov't. The Republicans, lest we forget, are well known to be insensitive, uncaring and generally for only the upper class and certain big businesses (Hailiburton, although certainly not GM and Ford which seem to gong bankrupt at the moment) and therefore exposing them is an obvious necessity. And worse, you often hear Republicans talking about cutting taxes, an ownership society, and other things that would actually diminish the power of our wonderful gov't that obviously needs to grow. The more gov't grows the more freedom we will all have- right?

But, perhaps when the Democrats are back in power the free press will feel compelled to go on voluntary hiatus given that the bigger, better, and ever growing gov't they love so much will be so wonderfully big and powerful and doing so much good by then that it alone can surely be trusted to tell us all about what it is doing, without the help of a free press? Why would we need a free press to report on what a burgeoning liberal gov't is doing when, by definition, liberals think gov't is good? It would seem very odd wouldn't it if they argued that that they need to keep an eye on even a liberal gov't the size of ours while they support an even bigger gov't subject to, theoretically at least, even more dishonesty, inefficiency, and corruption?

It makes you wonder what on earth our founders had in mind when they installed a free press even for the tiny little gov't they created. It also makes you wonder what they would proscribe for our current liberal gov't which is 1000 times bigger than the one a free press was supposed to monitor 200 years ago? Mostly though you wonder why it is that when Judith Miller gets out of jail she and her neuroticially liberal colleagues will continue to support and rat out an even bigger and more powerful liberal gov't than the one that put her in jail. If gov't is naturally so lovable why did it put her in jail and why does it need to be monitored by a free press at all? What were those founding fathers thinking, on our behalf?

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

did you just delete my comment?

Ok, maybe it was a little too obtuse or snippy for you.

Let me explain, since apparently you did not bother to look it up.

I said my comment was one word: "minitruth".

In "1984", that's a book, the author describes a nightmare society.

Minitruth is teh minister of truth. It controls all the media.
In the whole book, we see minitruth saying the govenrment is great, the govenment is your friend, the war is going well, anyone who opposes the government is a traitor and/or plainly insane.

Since there is no other source of info, no-one chalenges the news.

By the way, the living conditions are horrible, save for the ... Top of the government.

oh, and if you want another example of a country without a free press, I suggest communist russia, with the "pravda" ("truth" in russian)

by th way, it's a little easy to delete comments that you don't understand or can't refute, don't you think?

I'm sorry, I don't say anything on you personnaly, but the ideas developped in this post of the blog are stupid. They ignore history. They are even contradictory to your OTHER posts, since free press should be allowed, as long a there is a demand for it, according to your own credo.

Anonymous said...

Are you kidding...? Nobody is perfect. Just because you are an elected official, does not make you the best person in the world. Believe it or not, there are corrupt politicians out there, on both sides of the political game. Some only have their interests at heart. They need to know that we vote them in, and they are held accountable for everything that they do. And a free press allows the people to know what exactly is going on in government. A government run press is an extremly Communist idea. I hope that you do not feel this way because it is one of the Republicans that is screwing up. Did you feel this way when Clinton had every one of his screw ups blasted for the world to see, or are you being hypocritical?

Ted said...

did you just delete my comment?
**********no

Ok, maybe it was a little too obtuse or snippy for you.
*******I have patience even for school children

Let me explain, since apparently you did not bother to look it up.

I said my comment was one word: "minitruth".
*******one word is not a logical comment, it is a waste of time

In "1984", that's a book, the author describes a nightmare society.
Minitruth is teh minister of truth. It controls all the media.
In the whole book, we see minitruth saying the govenrment is great, the govenment is your friend, the war is going well, anyone who opposes the government is a traitor and/or plainly insane.
*********so??????? again you forgot to make a point???

Since there is no other source of info, no-one chalenges the news.
********so???

By the way, the living conditions are horrible, save for the ... Top of the government.
**********so???

oh, and if you want another example of a country without a free press, I suggest communist russia, with the "pravda" ("truth" in russian)
********who was looking for examples withouth a free press??? Are you drunk???

by th way, it's a little easy to delete comments that you don't understand or can't refute, don't you think?
********* I can handle kids don't worry and am happy to help actually

I'm sorry, I don't say anything on you personnaly, but the ideas developped in this post of the blog are stupid.
*******you forgot to say what idea is stupid and why you feel that way??

They ignore history.
*******where????

They are even contradictory to your OTHER posts,
********you forgot to point out the contridiction??

since free press should be allowed, as long a there is a demand for it,
*******actually dear it is in the Constitution and all agree it should stay there

according to your own credo.
********??????????

7:58 PM


TheBuke said... Are you kidding...? Nobody is perfect. Just because you are an elected official, does not make you the best person in the world.
*******all agree but so what???

Believe it or not, there are corrupt politicians out there, on both sides of the political game.
*******so???
Some only have their interests at heart. They need to know that we vote them in, and they are held accountable for everything that they do.
******yes all gree but so what???

And a free press allows the people to know what exactly is going on in government. A government run press is an extremly Communist idea.
*******yes all agree but so what???

I hope that you do not feel this way because it is one of the Republicans that is screwing up. Did you feel this way when Clinton had every one of his screw ups blasted for the world to see, or are you being hypocritical?
********perhaps you should get an adult to read the post to you!

Anonymous said...

did you just delete my comment?
**********no
__________
i'm allowing for tech problems here, no problem.

Ok, maybe it was a little too obtuse or snippy for you.
*******I have patience even for school children
___________
actually I am an engineering student entering my final year. That's the 5th after high school graduation.

Let me explain, since apparently you did not bother to look it up.

I said my comment was one word: "minitruth".
*******one word is not a logical comment, it is a waste of time
_________
not if you either have some culture or bother to do a folow-up and some research. You know, thinking.


In "1984", that's a book, the author describes a nightmare society.
Minitruth is teh minister of truth. It controls all the media.
In the whole book, we see minitruth saying the govenrment is great, the govenment is your friend, the war is going well, anyone who opposes the government is a traitor and/or plainly insane.
*********so??????? again you forgot to make a point???
_________
read on...

Since there is no other source of info, no-one chalenges the news.
********so???
__________
read on.... Some people actually use several sentences to make a pont.

By the way, the living conditions are horrible, save for the ... Top of the government.
**********so???
__________
I thought it was pretty clear from here that the book describes a totalitarioan society and the way government-controlled media are used to aid this government's cause and stop having any allegiance to the truth

oh, and if you want another example of a country without a free press, I suggest communist russia, with the "pravda" ("truth" in russian)
********who was looking for examples withouth a free press??? Are you drunk???
_________
Actually I don't drink. I was merely allowing for the possibility that you would dismiss my exaple of what happens in a country without a free press (1984, just up here) as a fiction, discounting the fact that fictions are often used to explain some aspects of real life by putting a new light on them.

by th way, it's a little easy to delete comments that you don't understand or can't refute, don't you think?
********* I can handle kids don't worry and am happy to help actually
_________
again, I am ready to allow for the tech problems.

I'm sorry, I don't say anything on you personnaly, but the ideas developped in this post of the blog are stupid.
*******you forgot to say what idea is stupid and why you feel that way??
________
read on...

They ignore history.
*******where????
________
just where i said. USSR. THe pravda wasa tool of propaganda and helped strenghten and further the end of the communist regime. If free press had been allowed, its influence would have been greatly reduced.
The ban on free press is one of the first moves of totalitarian regimes. it allows a better control of the population.
Free press is a safeguard against the taking over of the state by dictators and criminals.


They are even contradictory to your OTHER posts,
********you forgot to point out the contridiction??
_________
please read at least two sentences at a time, if it is in your capabilities, I happen to state my point before I explain it. Now read on.

since free press should be allowed, as long a there is a demand for it,
*******actually dear it is in the Constitution and all agree it should stay there
_________
"Our founding fathers may have had some very good ideas, in fact many very good ideas, but a free press just may not have been one of them"
apparently you don't, and I am talking with you, ain't I?

according to your own credo.
********??????????
________
you know, free trade, all that. The other posts I comment on? actually my sentence is easier to undersatnd if you don't cut it in the middle. again, please don't let your brains spill on the net through your keyboard, think a little before you answer a sentence without adressing its meaning

Or maybe you are not the same person that writes the posts?
I'm a little confused here... Maybe it is just that you chose to ignore the points you make when they do not work in your favor.

be coherent, please

Anonymous said...

Why is it that instead of addressing points made, you make insults, claiming that I should have an adult read the post to me? The only thing childish are your skills in reasoning. Gave you two examples of government controlled media to show you what they would look like. They are not as good as you seem to think.

You question why Democrats hate America in other posts and topics. I believe now that it is you who hate America.

Ted said...

Why is it that instead of addressing points made, you make insults, claiming that I should have an adult read the post to me?
****it honestly seems that you were not able to understand the post

The only thing childish are your skills in reasoning.
******ah good then you'll provide an example??

Gave you two examples of government controlled media to show you what they would look like. They are not as good as you seem to think.
********all agree with free speech but so what???
You question why Democrats hate America in other posts and topics.
********so??

I believe now that it is you who hate America.
********* you forgot to say why???????

Anonymous said...

what is it, ted, did you forget to answer my last comment? or do you try to divert attention from the fact you have no answer?

by the way, thebuke, thanks. If not for you, i'd feel I'm talking to a wall here.

Ted said...

please forward you last comment to bje1000@aol.com. So far as I know I have answered all comments?

Anonymous said...

french student said...
did you just delete my comment?
**********no
__________
i'm allowing for tech problems here, no problem.

Ok, maybe it was a little too obtuse or snippy for you.
*******I have patience even for school children
___________
actually I am an engineering student entering my final year. That's the 5th after high school graduation.

Let me explain, since apparently you did not bother to look it up.

I said my comment was one word: "minitruth".
*******one word is not a logical comment, it is a waste of time
_________
not if you either have some culture or bother to do a folow-up and some research. You know, thinking.


In "1984", that's a book, the author describes a nightmare society.
Minitruth is teh minister of truth. It controls all the media.
In the whole book, we see minitruth saying the govenrment is great, the govenment is your friend, the war is going well, anyone who opposes the government is a traitor and/or plainly insane.
*********so??????? again you forgot to make a point???
_________
read on...

Since there is no other source of info, no-one chalenges the news.
********so???
__________
read on.... Some people actually use several sentences to make a pont.

By the way, the living conditions are horrible, save for the ... Top of the government.
**********so???
__________
I thought it was pretty clear from here that the book describes a totalitarioan society and the way government-controlled media are used to aid this government's cause and stop having any allegiance to the truth

oh, and if you want another example of a country without a free press, I suggest communist russia, with the "pravda" ("truth" in russian)
********who was looking for examples withouth a free press??? Are you drunk???
_________
Actually I don't drink. I was merely allowing for the possibility that you would dismiss my exaple of what happens in a country without a free press (1984, just up here) as a fiction, discounting the fact that fictions are often used to explain some aspects of real life by putting a new light on them.

by th way, it's a little easy to delete comments that you don't understand or can't refute, don't you think?
********* I can handle kids don't worry and am happy to help actually
_________
again, I am ready to allow for the tech problems.

I'm sorry, I don't say anything on you personnaly, but the ideas developped in this post of the blog are stupid.
*******you forgot to say what idea is stupid and why you feel that way??
________
read on...

They ignore history.
*******where????
________
just where i said. USSR. THe pravda wasa tool of propaganda and helped strenghten and further the end of the communist regime. If free press had been allowed, its influence would have been greatly reduced.
The ban on free press is one of the first moves of totalitarian regimes. it allows a better control of the population.
Free press is a safeguard against the taking over of the state by dictators and criminals.


They are even contradictory to your OTHER posts,
********you forgot to point out the contridiction??
_________
please read at least two sentences at a time, if it is in your capabilities, I happen to state my point before I explain it. Now read on.

since free press should be allowed, as long a there is a demand for it,
*******actually dear it is in the Constitution and all agree it should stay there
_________
"Our founding fathers may have had some very good ideas, in fact many very good ideas, but a free press just may not have been one of them"
apparently you don't, and I am talking with you, ain't I?

according to your own credo.
********??????????
________
you know, free trade, all that. The other posts I comment on? actually my sentence is easier to undersatnd if you don't cut it in the middle. again, please don't let your brains spill on the net through your keyboard, think a little before you answer a sentence without adressing its meaning

Or maybe you are not the same person that writes the posts?
I'm a little confused here... Maybe it is just that you chose to ignore the points you make when they do not work in your favor.

be coherent, please

8:40 PM


I know, thebuke spoke after me, so you may not have seen this one.

Ted said...

actually I am an engineering student entering my final year. That's the 5th after high school graduation.
******that might explain why you lack a conceptual IQ

__________
read on.... Some people actually use several sentences to make a pont.
******or run their mouths thinking they are making a point
__________
I thought it was pretty clear from here that the book describes a totalitarioan society and the way government-controlled media are used to aid this government's cause and stop having any allegiance to the truth
********so???

oh, and if you want another example of a country without a free press, I suggest communist russia, with the "pravda" ("truth" in russian)
********who was looking for examples withouth a free press??? Are you drunk???

by th way, it's a little easy to delete comments that you don't understand or can't refute, don't you think?
********* I can handle kids don't worry and am happy to help actually. If you have a comment I can't confute please let me know??


They ignore history.
*******where????
________
just where i said. USSR. THe pravda wasa tool of propaganda and helped strenghten and further the end of the communist regime. If free press had been allowed, its influence would have been greatly reduced.
The ban on free press is one of the first moves of totalitarian regimes. it allows a better control of the population.
Free press is a safeguard against the taking over of the state by dictators and criminals.
*******yes yes dummy that's why we have the first amendment but who cares????


since free press should be allowed, as long a there is a demand for it,
*******actually dear it is in the Constitution and all agree it should stay there
_________
"Our founding fathers may have had some very good ideas, in fact many very good ideas, but a free press just may not have been one of them"
*******it was a sarcastic article wherein I was taking about the contradiction in liberals wanting a bigger gov't and a free press. too subtle if you don't know english well.

according to your own credo.
********??????????
be coherent, please
**do you get it now>>>

Anonymous said...

you seem to equate bigger government with more repressive government.
I disagree.
with the patriot act, GWB has restricted your civil liberties without increasing the size of the government. The french government is extensive, but we don't feel trapped by it.

In fact, the smallest functionnal government is a small cadre of decision-making people and a huge army to impose that will on the population. that's a totalitarian regime. On a totally unrelated subject, you devote 40% of your taxes to maintaining your army.

For governments, the size does not matter. What matters is the will of those in charge to do what's good for those that are governed.

Ted said...

french student said... you seem to equate bigger government with more repressive government.
********that is the lesson of history that Jefferson based America on. All the atrocities of history were caused by big gov/t. All the progress was caused by capitalists.


I disagree.
with the patriot act, GWB has restricted your civil liberties
*******you forgot to say how because this is not true
without increasing the size of the government.
********how could the gov't "restrict" without increasing "size"? Isn't thinking fun???

The French government is extensive, but we don't feel trapped by it.
*******too stupid, you pay 50--60% of your income to a senseless wasteful gov't, you're unemployment rate is 10% as a result, you never invented a consumer product for the world and run more than ever from globalization, your girlie men depend on us for defense, you lost both world wars and then in Algeria and Vietnam, you don't have the spirit to even reproduce, and your girlie men take pride only in there food and wine. After everyone followed Napoleon half followed Hitler and most are still anti-Semitic. Monkey's and Frenchman don't know they live in a cage

In fact, the smallest functional government is a small cadre of decision-making people and a huge army to impose that will on the population. That's a totalitarian regime.
*****no idea what your subject is??
On a totally unrelated subject, you devote 40% of your taxes to maintaining your army.
********to stupid, the military is 10% ($400 billion) of the budget and that includes defending France and the rest of the world from Germans, Nazis, Communists, and now the Muslim caliphate-do you get it now dummy???

For governments, the size does not matter. What matters is the will of those in charge to do what's good for those that are governed.
********power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely this is the principle that Jefferson based American on the principle evidence wherever in human history genocide occurs-you are sadly and engineering idiot, but you do try. For that, at lest, I give you credit.




8:20 PM